Managed Funds Freeman Fox

Discussion in 'Shares & Funds' started by Redwing, 2nd Dec, 2007.

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  1. Redwing

    Redwing Well-Known Member

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    vandalic Active Member

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    Whilst I must admit the Maximiser+ fund definitely caught my eye when I received the information in the mail, after looking through the PDS I found the fees a bit too excessive in my opinion for my own personal circumstances. That's not to say they are not suited to others.

    With the capital growth Maximiser+ fund as an example

    3.3% Entry Fee
    1.28% Management Fee
    2.16% Underlying Fund Fee

    6.74% Fee for First Year
    3.44% Thereafter


    Then if you throw a Macquarie Margin Loan into the mix add another 10.4% Variable up to 11.10% Fixed on top of these fees.

    That's some significant growth that needs to be made to break-even
     
  3. Redwing

    Redwing Well-Known Member

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    The Fee's threw me as well (reminiscent of McBANK themselves) but the general funds appeal

    What are current/best alernative Margin Loan fee's in comparison to McBANKS?


    Is it worth a look at ?
     
  4. Handyandy

    Handyandy Well-Known Member

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    It would seem that all the Maximiser fund does is maximise the fees collected:eek:

    These management fee seems to be about .5% higher than the next highest fees in any fund I can locate (cfs geared share at 3%).

    Cheers
     
  5. willy1111

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    I really don't like the lack of flexibility involved with these structured products - so am steering away from them mainly due to this.
     
  6. crc_error

    crc_error The Rule of 72

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    handyandy, eheheh you make a good point!
     
  7. The Stig

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    Do they negotiate the fees?

    Anyone know?
     
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    crc_error The Rule of 72

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    yes they do, if you sign up on their membership plans they knock off a whole 1% entry.. plus I think they offset some fees towards their membership renewal.
     
  9. The Stig

    The Stig Well-Known Member

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    Thanks CRC,

    Another question what is the Underlying Fund Fee? I have never heard of that one.

    Cheers
    The Stig
     
  10. crc_error

    crc_error The Rule of 72

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    Spanns funds buy up funds.. those funds charge their own fee, or MER, which is the 'underlying fund fee' then spann charges his own management fee to run the fund your investing, or his fund..

    {edit} my 600'th post!
     
  11. Venger

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    You're a legend!!

    {edit} and that ups my posts by 1 !!
     
  12. The Stig

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    Do Freeman Fox sell the funds in the Maximiser individually? Anyone know?

    Not everyone would be interested in the finance, the capital guarantee or the extra fee.

    The Stig
     
  13. Andrew Allen

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    I have heard Fund of Funds referred to as Fees on Fees. Looks to be some truth in that.

    I can understand their place in the investment world, not for this retail investor though.
     
  14. Redwing

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    Peter Spann has a new (FEB 08) Investor Outlook on his site and is also promoting another new Fund (Emerging Markets +), again looks interesting but I'm a bit gun shy :cool:
     
  15. The Stig

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    Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Hi Insight,

    MLC love fund of funds.

    Cheers,

    Dan
     
  17. crc_error

    crc_error The Rule of 72

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    interesting this about that is there is a option to invest via a warrent. So your $10,000 investment has $30,000 exposure, while the interest is paid internally. Apparently $1 is put into growth, and $1.60 is paid into a income style investment. Income has averaged 6-8% while the growth has averaged 20% PA.