HDT

Discussion in 'Accounting & Tax' started by Triu, 26th Sep, 2006.

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  1. Triu

    Triu Well-Known Member

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    I want to purchase many properties over the next couple of years! Should i set up a HDT first.

    I want all the benefits of protection, gearing and estate planning. Can anyone please advise!
     
  2. Simon Hampel

    Simon Hampel Founder Staff Member

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    Of course you should get professional advice about whether this is the best approach for you and how to go about it ... but a couple of comments:

    Don't set it up until you are ready to make your first purchase - there's no point incurring all the administrative fees (there are ongoing fees too) before you need to. Check with your advisor as to the best timing.

    Do you really need a HDT ? Do you have a high personal income that you intend to keep earning for an extended period ? Do you expect your trust to be making a loss ? If so, a HDT is probably right for you.

    Personally I went with an ordinary discretionary trust for a number of reasons: first, it's much simpler - finances and structures are complex enough as they are without adding artificial complexities to the mix for what may be only a short term tax gain.

    Second, even though I currently have a high personal income and pay a lot in tax, I don't plan on keeping my job much longer, and so won't need the negative gearing benefits then.

    Third, my trust is cashflow positive anyway - so there's no negative gearing to be had.

    Of course, a HDT can act like a normal discretionary trust in some circumstances, so it might be a good choice either way, again, I'll defer to a specialist (like NickM) as to whether it is really suitable for you.
     
  3. NickM

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    Triu
    there are a number of factors to consider when investing.
    I find that most clients tend to buy IP 1 or 2 in personal names unless asset protection is critical.
    This helps affordability, particularly with land tax issues + admin costs.

    A trust is the most flexible structure, however you should get advice as each person is different.
    NickM
     
  4. Redwing

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    Good Points;

    Make sure its what you want first as I bet there are *numerous* clients of accountants that set up these structures on a whim and dont activate them.

    We have IP's in Individual and Joint names and also in a HDT, any further purchases will be acquired through the HDT as well mainly due to its flexibility.

    Maybe settle on a Strategy first though Trui as you seem to be "bouncing all over the shop" at the moment trying to make decisions on courses, structures etc etc..maybe slowup a bit (Make haste slowly as they say)?

    There's a lot to take in and I'm guessing you want to get it "right" the first time; thats normal, but not always what happens from what I've experienced
     
  5. Triu

    Triu Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Redwing learning so much what they did not teach in me school :)

    Trying to sort out a financial plan and strategy but need some professional help. Am going to see FreemanFox financial planners they said they can help me with my strategy.

    thanks for help!
     
  6. TryHard

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    Triu, of course they will 'help' you - its how they make their money :p
     
  7. NickM

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    Try hard - dont be so cynical ! :D