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VHY and the art of tweaking

Discussion in 'Exchange Traded Funds (ETF)' started by twisted strategies, 23rd Oct, 2016.

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  1. twisted strategies

    twisted strategies Well-Known Member

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    • Basket Securities per Unit for: 24 Oct 2016
    • Number of Securities: 38
    • Estimated Cash: 957.45
    ASX Code Name of Security Number of Shares == my direct holdings ( less/more/zero )
    ABC ADELAIDE BRIGHTON LTD. 4,889 = less
    AMP AMP LTD. 3,238 = less
    AHY ASALEO CARE LTD. 3,981 = zero
    AZJ AURIZON HOLDINGS LTD 21,231 = zero
    AST AUSNET SERVICES 19,224 = less
    ANZ AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND BANKING GROUP LT 3,215 = zero
    AHG AUTOMOTIVE HOLDINGS GROUP 2,507 = zero
    BOQ BANK OF QUEENSLAND LTD. 419 = more
    BEN BENDIGO AND ADELAIDE BANK LTD. 509 = less
    CBA COMMONWEALTH BANK OF AUSTRALIA 1,026 = zero
    CSR CSR LTD. 5,435 = less
    DOW DOWNER EDI LTD. 4,583 = zero
    DUE DUET GROUP 26,245 = zero
    FXL FLEXIGROUP LTD./AUSTRALIA 310 = zero
    GEM G8 EDUCATION LTD. 4,057 = zero
    GMA GENWORTH MORTGAGE INSURANCE AUSTRALIA LT 281 = zero
    GUD GUD HOLDINGS LTD. 918 = zero
    IAG INSURANCE AUSTRALIA GROUP LTD. 2,625 = zero
    IFL IOOF HOLDINGS LTD. 338 = zero
    MQG MACQUARIE GROUP LTD. 341 = less
    MND MONADELPHOUS GROUP LTD. 948 = zero
    NAB NATIONAL AUSTRALIA BANK LTD. 2,926 = zero
    NEC NINE ENTERTAINMENT CO. HOLDINGS LTD. 6,754 = zero
    PPT PERPETUAL LTD. 49 = zero
    PTM PLATINUM ASSET MANAGEMENT LTD. 264 = zero
    RFG RETAIL FOOD GROUP LTD. 1,580 = zero
    SVW SEVEN GROUP HOLDINGS LTD. 970 = less
    SWM SEVEN WEST MEDIA LTD. 9,776 = zero
    SXL SOUTHERN CROSS MEDIA GROUP LTD. 8,288 = zero
    SKI SPARK INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP 18,102 = less
    SPO SPOTLESS GROUP HOLDINGS LTD. 11,586 = zero
    SUN SUNCORP GROUP LTD. 1,422 = less
    TAH TABCORP HOLDINGS LTD. 8,933 = less
    TLS TELSTRA CORP. LTD. 19,070 = less
    VRL VILLAGE ROADSHOW LTD. 949 = zero
    WES WESFARMERS LTD. 2,587 = less
    WBC WESTPAC BANKING CORP. 3,675 = less
    WOR WORLEYPARSONS LTD. 2,342 = zero

    ( i bought into VHY in 2011 )
    at first glance you might think the overlap is counterproductive here

    but my largest holdings ( by $value ) currently are

    1. WOW (at minor cash risk )

    2. BHP

    3. MQG ( at no cash risk )

    4. APE ( at no cash risk )

    5. CUP

    6. WES

    7. EQT

    8. CDM

    9. TME

    10. BOQ

    11. CCL

    12. VAS

    13. BFG

    14. ORG

    15. SVWPA
     
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  2. twisted strategies

    twisted strategies Well-Known Member

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    correction

    No 11 should be CMW ( added extras on Friday )

    the rest should read

    12. CCL

    13. VAS

    14. BFG

    15. ORG

    16. SVWPA


    sorry ( MY BAD )
     
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  3. RS Gumby

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    Hi Twisted
    Going through the old ETF posts looking for info on my next purchase and noticed you owned Ausnet shares.
    I too own a few as I work for the company
    Do you still own them? and what do you think their prospects for growth are?
     
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    twisted strategies Well-Known Member

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    yes i still hold AST

    the problem is regulatory/political risk

    so i would think the company will be focused on survival ( keeping a steady course until there are stable policies in place )

    but where can they grow ( sensibly ) this is a debt laden sector

    SKI for instance ( i hold them as well ) started a few years ago to focus more on telco services ( including NBN contracts ).

    i am NOT unhappy with AST , but neither do i expect them to double or triple in price in the next 5 years .
     
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    Just been to a company roadshow and they're looking into renewable energy possibilities
    They know they've been a bit slow on the uptake
     
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    slow isn't always a bad thing , there might be opportunities to pick up a struggling company or two , but more importantly they have waited for the tech to mature ( more )

    i am a big fan of avoiding other folks mistakes

    being late AND UNPROFITABLE ( aka clutching at straws ) normally ends badly
     
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    by the way i have exited ORG ( crystallizing a profit ) .. was not so happy with them ... all promises and divestments and no divs
     
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    I've been looking closely at HVST and VTS
    I have some money in my Bell account for a purchase
    Waiting for a downturn in the market but VTS especially keeps going up!
     
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    Yeah ORG hasn't had the greatest publicity lately
    Ausnet steady as she goes
     
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    i don't follow VTS but be careful with HVST ( i hold ) dividends are getting harder to harvest at a good margin ( at this relies on churning holdings to harvest divs )

    i DRP HVST ( so am not desperate for the income currently ) others might find this trend disappointing and wait for a market correction ( or crash )
     
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    i had previously thought of ORG as a potential core holding ... but when will the fire sale stop BPT bought the best part ( i hold BPT ) why would i hold the rest ?? ( when i was finally also back in profit )

    AST and SKI have made rational decisions even if they were unexciting ( but isn't that what defensive stocks are all about ??)

    i hold other stocks that make big gains ( at higher risk )
     
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    :eek: vomit

    There's only one way the share price can go long term (down). Any (especially high turnover) ETF has the same problem, capital gains are returned to the owner which acts as an anchor and works against compounding. Sure you can DRP, but IMO the high cost and flaws in high turnover make the idea unpalatable.
     
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    i am hoping timing of the buying ( of extra units ) will mitigate some of this ( assuming there is nasty correction in my lifetime )

    i certainly wouldn't want to have more than 10% of my investment cash in this .

    but it should go well as the market recovers from a crash of major downturn ( as P/E values plummet )

    as long RS looks CLOSELY and thinks CAREFULLY

    this is a whole different ball-game to VAS or VHY so i would suggest it needs a special strategy if you decide to buy in
     
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